Curse

ac1inferno · Oct 30, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

My build was posted after the OP had said he capped Assassin's Promise and needed a build for it. Something that abuses PvE skills or weapon spells would be much better off with Elites like Spirit's Strength, Wielder's Zeal, Weapon of Quickening, Offering of Spirit, Attuned Was Songkai, or Weapon of Fury and would have no need for Assassin's Promise.

Because he asked for Assassin's Promise, I gave him a spirit spammer build because that would be what fits best for the elite. Builds abusing PvE skills and weapon spells would have no need for it.

Tyla · Oct 30, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

Because he asked for Assassin's Promise, I gave him a spirit spammer build because that would be what fits best for the elite. Builds abusing PvE skills and weapon spells would have no need for it.

"Finish Him!"
EVAS
EVSS
Breath of the Great Dwarf
Technobabble
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"

Those are all pretty powerful PvE skills you can abuse with AP, you know.

ac1inferno · Oct 30, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

But those have low enough recharge to not need Assassin's Promise. They could use the energy from it, but then it would be better off using Offering of Spirit for the elite.

Tyla · Oct 30, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

"FH!" - 15 recharge, and deals quite a bit of damage.
EVAS - 30 recharge, speaks for itself.
Technobabble - 18 recharge, unmaintainable.
BotGD - 15 recharge.

With AP and enough killing power, you can practically spam these skills. Even then, Assassins' Promise is much stronger energy management than OoS because it's practically spammable under the right circumstances. It also synergises well with AVSS, aswell.

ac1inferno · Oct 30, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

EVAS lasts half the recharge duration so you only need to wait about 15 seconds. I just don't see 15 seconds as long recharge to warrant using Assassin's Promise as the elite, but that's only my view on it.

True that Assassin's Promise would mean more energy than Offering of Spirit in the end, but I personally find that OoS is enough energy to not need to spread out further attributes and go into a secondary.

Using those skills as the basis of a build would be strong, but it just doesn't seem "Rit-ish" enough. Any class could run a build like that so it wouldn't be something a Rit could uniquely accomplish. Giving that would be an Any/Assassin build and not a Rit build. Again, personal opinion.

If I wanted a build that abuses PvE skills, I would run something like this:

[build prof=rt/d spawningpower=12+1+2 scythemastery=12 restorationmagic=3][Spirit's Strength][Optional][Aura of Holy Might][Great Dwarf Armor][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Zealous Sweep][Death Pact Signet][/build]

Optional would be any weapon spell, although it would work best if someone could put Great Dwarf Weapon on you.

Moonlit Azure · Oct 30, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Tyla · Oct 30, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

EVAS lasts half the recharge duration so you only need to wait about 15 seconds. I just don't see 15 seconds as long recharge to warrant using Assassin's Promise as the elite, but that's only my view on it.

You can have more than one active at a time, and they die extremely easy.

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If I wanted a build that abuses PvE skills, I would run something like this:

[build prof=rt/d spawningpower=12+1+2 scythemastery=12 restorationmagic=3][Spirit's Strength][Optional][Aura of Holy Might][Great Dwarf Armor][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Zealous Sweep][Death Pact Signet][/build]

Optional would be any weapon spell, although it would work best if someone could put Great Dwarf Weapon on you.

It needs more Asuran Scan, but physical based bars don't necesarily pair up well with Assassins' Promise.

ac1inferno · Oct 30, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by Tyla

You can have more than one active at a time, and they die extremely easy.

Now that makes a huge difference lol. I thought it was only one up at a time like Flesh Golem. Do they really die that fast though? I thought a lvl 19 would have around 456 health.

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Originally Posted by Tyla

It needs more Asuran Scan, but physical based bars don't necesarily pair up well with Assassins' Promise.

Asuran Scan would help but I just can't find space to fit it into the bar. And also, it's a Spirit's Strength build that's completely off-topic and not related to Assassin's Promise.

Tyla · Oct 30, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

Now that makes a huge difference lol. I thought it was only one up at a time like Flesh Golem. Do they really die that fast though? I thought a lvl 19 would have around 456 health.

You can say they're comparable to minions in their defensive strength. They're a bit more durable, but they tend to not last as long.

ac1inferno · Oct 30, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

I guess it's because they only have 70 armor and is up front with the frontliners.

naglifar · Oct 31, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29

I would say get AP for sure. Of all the HM builds i cycle through, the strongest is Prop: AP, Ebon Assassin, "you move like a dwarf", Finish him, splinter, warmongers wep, Wailing weapon, Flesh of my Flesh. Insane DPS and if you have an assassin or warrior with you the Wailing wep or Warmongers wep can shut down just about anything.

upier · Nov 04, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by Moonlit Azure

Whoever keeps deleting my posts:

Show yourself!

That was so cute!

I just wanted to post the above observation, but then I found this:

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

EVAS lasts half the recharge duration so you only need to wait about 15 seconds. I just don't see 15 seconds as long recharge to warrant using Assassin's Promise as the elite, but that's only my view on it.

and figured I might as well post it also.
Look at his attack chain.

ac1inferno · Nov 04, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Yes I know, iron palm for lead the hex will help knockdown, but that was before when I thought only one could be up like flesh golem.

Moonlit Azure · Nov 04, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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